Coweta Fayette Real Estate & Newnan Homes for sale blog by Richard Weisser of Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Metro Brokers

"Your short sale listing ... if I write an offer today can we get it closed by November 30?"

he deadline for the $8000 tax credit is nearWow, that's a tough question. With the first time homebuyer's tax credit deadline just a little over two months away that is the $8000 question. And it is, of course, impossible to answer.

Every case is different, and while it may be possible to get the deal closed by the deadline, there are no guarantees in the world of short sales. We have closed some with local banks in just over a month, but this is a large institutional lender that would require approval from the investor. It could happen, it really could, but I still cannot answer that question less than truthfully.

My answer was that I would make this deal my top priority, and that I would do everything I could to make it happen. Beyond that, it is out of my control.

I sure would like to give it a go and see what happens!

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Comments

The honest answer is maybe....the agents who advertise "pre-approved" short sales...huh ?...give agents and buyers the impression that they close in a minute...hmmmm...With ANY short sale listing the agents and buyers should know the listing agents experience in this area of practice.

Posted by Sally & David Hanson WI Realtors Luxury\Short Sale\CDPE\ABR\e-Pro\REDS (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 2 years ago

Do you think the tax credit will be extended? We're getting the same question about closing prior to the expiration. It's difficult b/c some of the young kids really need the credit, and I hate to lead them to believe they'll close by the deadline, when we really have no idea. Good post... Thanks.

Posted by Margo Currie (Exit 1 Stop Realty) over 2 years ago

I think if you were to get it done by November 30th you would deserve your commission and more. The likely scenario is that on November 30 you would still be waiting for a response from the bank to the original offer.

 

Posted by Terry Lynch (LAR Notary and Closing Services) over 2 years ago

With the November 30th deadline looming, I suggest to my first time buyers that we exclude short sale listings at this time if the tax credit is important to them.  Most of my buyers choose to forgo the short sale homes because of the potential loss of the $8000 credit opportunity.

Posted by Teresa Cox King, Gulf Shores and Orange Beach Real Estate (RE/MAX of Gulf Shores ) over 2 years ago

I actually closed on a Short Sale in two weeks once.  It was a miracle.  Really it had to be.  I had one take almost 8 months.  I would make sure any buyer today understands that the likely-hood of closing any loan in time for the $8,000.00 tax credit from here on in is less and less likely.  I may even have new buyers sign an affidavit that indemnifies me if they don't get the credit because of a late closing.

 

Posted by Bob Murphy (Re/Max First) over 2 years ago

Richard you have to ask yourself and your clients, what happens if it doesn't close by November 30th? Do your clients need the $8,000 to make the transaction work? Hopefully, it will close by this date and you won't have to answer these questions. Good Luck!

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Michael's Commercial Northern Virginia Commercial Real Estate (703.831.4028, http://michaelscommercial.com) over 2 years ago

That would be a tall challenge but any real estate agent who knows what they are doing would give it a shot.  Of course if there is a single lender and the price is reasonable for the market, perhaps yes!

Posted by Gary L Waters PLLC- Broker Associate Realtor® Melbourne Viera Rockledge FL (Century 21 Baytree Realty, 1211 Admiralty Blvd, Rockledge) over 2 years ago

Short sales and closing schedules are indeed a problem with the first time buyers credit. If the short sale has been approved you should be OK but if from scratch...its gonna be a close one.

Posted by Chip Jefferson (Gibbs Realty and Auction Company) over 2 years ago

Richard, If I were working with a buyer that wanted the tax credit I would NEVER place them on a short sale listing this late in the year. If they need that $8,000 I would not risk it on the slim chance they could close that quickly. It could happen but it's not likely. No matter what the listing agent says.

Posted by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc over 2 years ago

Hi Richard,

Nothing ventured nothing gained. If they really love this house and they don't have to have the $8K then go for it and it will be a bonus if it closes on time. It all boils down to the buyer's expectations. There are lots of houses out there on the market!

Posted by Dorie Dillard Realtor® Canyon Creek NW Austin TX homes for sale (Coldwell Banker United Realtors) over 2 years ago

I have come up with an addendum for buyers to sign that states that we are not responsible and make NO guarentee that any sale will close in time to take advantage of the $8000 credit.

Posted by William Feela Realtor 651-674-5999 No. Branch,MN (WHISPERING PINES REALTY) over 2 years ago

Richard,

I am no long showing 1st time homebuyers short sale listings if they have a "requirement" to close before November 30th, in order to take advantage of the tax credit.

If the government extends the timeframe, I'll reconsider.

Rich

Posted by Richard Iarossi, Crofton MD Real Estate, Annapolis MD Real Estate (Long and Foster® Real Estate, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Richard, it is a great answer. You can do everything in YOUR power, but you have NO control over the bank(s) involved!

It's up to the buyer if they are the gambling type...because that is exactly what they are doing in this situation!!!

Posted by Marney Kirk, Towson, Maryland Real Estate (Keller Williams Excellence Realty) over 2 years ago

To All...

I purposely left the post vague as to my role, in this case I am actually the listing agent and the question was posed by the buyer's agent. So I don't want to lose the chance at the sale, but I am compelled to be as honest and forthright as I can! And all I can do is try my hardest which I will do!

Posted by Richard Weisser Coweta Fayette Real Estate over 2 years ago

Richard:  As long as you aren't dealing with Bank of America I'd say you have a fighting chance.  Keep us posted!

Posted by Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker, Northern VA (Long & Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA) over 2 years ago

There's no way to say what the bank will or will not do in the middle of a short sale negotiation, so you can never make guarantees. I'd also have the buyer sign paperwork saying that you can not guarantee closing on or before the deadline.

Posted by JL Boney, III Columbia, SC Real Estate (Russell and Jeffcoat) over 2 years ago

Based on all the short sale listings I already  carry. .the answer is NO 

Posted by Fernando Herboso #1 Real Estate Site www.ReallyNiceHomes.com in MD & VA (Herboso & Associates LLC- Broker 240.426.5754) over 2 years ago

Richard, like others above here have said.  You're correct on the maybe, but if there's a lot riding on the deal, such as the $8,000 tax credit, the odds are probably against it.

Posted by Gabe Sanders, Stuart Florida Real Estate (Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales) over 2 years ago

Richard - I actually laughed out loud reading the title of your post.  My first response was, "Of this year?"  We have a short sale that might close this next week after a mere TEN months in progress, first with Countrywide, and now with Bank of America. 

Posted by Jason Crouch, Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (512-796-7653) (Austin Texas Homes, LLC) over 2 years ago

Richard, I had that same question come up to me this past week, and my only answer was MAYBE!!

Posted by Gary Woltal - Assoc. Broker REALTOR® SFR Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty) over 2 years ago

My suggestion is to have a fully executed contract no later than Sept 30, 2009 to give the lender at least 60 days to go through the FHA process and/or conventional process.

Currently executed a direct buyer/seller contract 3 days ago since we have yet to hear from the "bank owned"REO submitted the end of August...  We already had the inspections, appraiser came today, the closing agent will have the title work on Monday, the townhome asssociation is processing the buyer application and the credit union couldn't be happier.

I closed an approved condo short sale in three weeks with a cash buyer.

I locked up an executed contract September 15th with the seller and have yet to receive the third party approval...even though the listing agent said he works with short sales specialist attorneys to get the mission accomplished.  It isnt imperative for this buyer to take advantage of the tax credit.

We have no control in the this arena...we consult with the parties and we listen to their direction.

Posted by Eileen Burns Income Property Specialist (Ft.Lauderdale/Miami/Palm Beach Trans State Commercial RE) over 2 years ago

Richard,

While my record is 23 days offer to close on a short sale, I'm finding lately that even the "responsive" banks are black holes. Your response was appropriate and honest. I hope you get that offer on your listing - and close it fast!

Posted by Irene Kennedy Realtor® in Northwestern NJ (Weichert) over 2 years ago

Richard - I just tell them - this is the wrong property....  No way would I risk a buyer's tax credit on a short sale approval in 30 days in this climate.

Posted by Wendy Rulnick "Its Wendy!" Destin FL Short Sales (Rulnick Realty, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Richard,

I would almost think that with the staffing problems or apathy at the banks I would be a little less than cautiously optimistic.

Posted by Don Rogers REALTOR®, CDPE, GRI O'Fallon MO & St Charles County MO homes (RE/MAX Gold) over 2 years ago

I think that the buyers have to make the call ... is the house such a good fit that the $8K doesn't matter?

There can be no guarantees as the rush to buy moves forward!

Posted by Richard Weisser Coweta Fayette Real Estate over 2 years ago

With all the pressure on the deadline date I'm sure some of the deals won't make it I hope none of yours.

Posted by Terry+Bonnie Westbrook Westbrook Realty Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Real Estate (Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner) over 2 years ago

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